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Post by Dave on Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:57 pm

Never ever been an advocate of off lead dogs around town but this bloke definitely seems to have the situation under control

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFP28ANXLLA
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Post by LyndaW on Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:22 pm

What an amazing sight. I can't even control one little Staffy offlead!  sad 
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Post by Dave on Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:42 pm

I thought the same Lynda , love the way he herds them all to one side passing people etc
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Post by Caryll on Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:43 pm

I saw this video the other day, and like you I thought it was amazing.

At first.

But I cringed when he started to alpha roll every dog in his 'pack'. Apparently, from what I've read elsewhere, he's a CM fan & trains with the pack leader method. All his dogs (apparently) are trained initially with prong & e-collars and alpha dominance. sad 

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Post by LyndaW on Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:06 pm

Oh. The bits I saw (and I didn't have the sound on and was distracted by comings and goings chez nous) where he was tussling one dog or another, I thought was playing and didn't recognise it as an alpha-roll situation. I shall have to watch it again, with sound, now that things are (hopefully) quieter.

Like Dave, I was particularly impressed by the way he held out his arm (with a stick, but I assume that's just an arm extension) to herd the dogs together when passing people.

If he uses prong and shock collars, that's abominable.  sad 
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Post by Caryll on Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:12 pm

That's just what I read that other people have said - he's a CM fan & trains the 'pack leader' way, including aversive training methods - ie prong & e-collars.

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Post by LyndaW on Thu Jun 26, 2014 10:25 pm

Um.

Just watched it again, without distractions and with sound.

I see what you mean by the alpha-roll Caryll, I didn't notice it first time, but early on in the video he did take some dogs by the forelegs and roll them over.

But he did speak kindly and encouragingly to his dogs, and they all seemed to want to be with him.
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Post by Shisa on Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:02 am

Wish my lot would run like that.
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Post by Caryll on Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:10 am

LyndaW wrote:
But he did speak kindly and encouragingly to his dogs, and they all seemed to want to be with him.

Oh, I'm not saying he's nasty to his dogs, but he has the wrong idea of training - outdated like CM. Most of the dogs he rolled were ok with it, but a couple were clearly very uncomfortable.

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Post by Eleanor on Fri Jun 27, 2014 2:11 pm

Nice!
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Re: Well worth watching

Post by tracyp on Mon Jul 14, 2014 4:36 pm

Beautiful. Just lovely love 

Cheers for making me smile Dave. Lovely video.
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