Auntie Ella's raw feeding info thread

[ella]

As most people who know me, know i feed my two prey model raw and so thought i'd write a thread for the newbies interested in a raw diet for their dogs, this is a very basic guide as a starting point and you must do further research

basics:

Model:
I feed a raw diet originally based on the prey model style feeding. This means that you feed as close as possible to a wild diet or whole raw prey (but most people make this up with parts of the animals).

Some feed veggies, some feed fruit, some feed table scraps...in moderation, most fruit and veg will not harm your dog - but they are not a NECESSARY part of the diet, and there is currently no known nutritional requirement for them, as everything can be found within the raw meat/bones/offal etc components.

How much:
You need to feed approx 2-3% of their expected adult body weight (if still growing) per day, or of their ideal adult body weight (if they have stopped growing) per day.

2% would perhaps be for a dog with low exercise or overweight. 3%+ would be for a dog with high exercise daily, perhaps sports dogs and also puppies. Somewhere around 2.5% suits most average adult dogs. Large breeds have slower metabolisms so they tend to need the lower % and small breeds have a high metabolism so often need far more than 3% even.

What:
Remember the roughly 80:10:10 ratio – which is approx 70-80% muscle meat (incl. heart, tripe and oily fish), 10-20% bone (within some of that meat), 10% offal (this should be ½ liver and half other offal such as kidney, spleen etc). However, this is a very rough guideline and should be tweaked to suit the dog - for instance many feed more like 15-20% bone and as little as 5% offal. Either way it usually equates to somewhere in the region of 50-70% of the diet as lumps of meat with bone in...the remainder of the diet being made up of boneless chunks of muscle meat, incl heart/tripe etc, plus a small amount of offal like liver & kidney.

NOTE: None of this has to be religiously stuck to on a daily basis – as long as over a period of weeks this adds up to roughly the correct amounts – and each dog is different, so some may need slightly lower bone, some might not be able to tolerate that much offal etc etc, hence the variable % stated above too.

Some ideas for meals: could be a chunk of meat of beef, lamb, pork, chicken, rabbit, turkey, venison, oily fish such as salmon, mackeral, herring, sardines, a bone-in meal of rabbit/chicken quarter or pork/lamb ribs etc...heart from any of the above animals, beef/venison tripe...the list is endless!

Size of pieces: The size of the pieces should always be appropriate to the size of the dog and the bigger the better! For instance, I would not personally recommend feeding something like a chicken wing to anything larger than a small breed unless you know they wont inhale it or you hold on to one end, instead a chicken breast and wing quarter or even a half chicken is much better for medium + breeds.

A great extra is to add whole eggs to meals, yes whole intact with the shell and let them crack it open and the shell is great for them to eat!


I also give my two a variety of whole prey which i won't add photos of but this includes whole rabbit, guinea pigs, mice, rats, chicks, quail, hamster etc etc these aren't needed as a lot would be uncomfortable feeding them however they are an option. I also feed things like chicken and duck feet, and duck tongues!

For another good guide to starting out have a look at this site http://preymodelraw.com/

[ella]

A list of suppliers! this isn't exhaustive mind

Bear in mind I have not used all of these so can't comment on them! also most deliver to certain areas only so best to check with them if they will deliver to you.

List of uk abattoirs - http://www.tracingpaper.org.uk/foodtracer/abattoirs/ - license may be required

Canine Divine. http://www.canine-divine.co.uk/ free delivery on orders over £10.00

Pets Plus at Henry Street Garden Centre, *Arborfield, Reading, RG2 9JY

team ilbrey - http://teamilbreyanimalservices.webs.com/rawmeatordersheet.htm

they love it - http://www.theyloveit.co.uk/

west fife raw foods - https://www.facebook.com/WestFifeRawFeeds

manifold valley meats - http://www.manifoldvalleymeats.co.uk/barf-diet-products/
(If anyone is on FB and within the Midlands area (to be clarified) Check out

https://www.facebook.com/groups/479385695425522/ - MVM

Nixon's Farm Shop in Heald Green.

http://www.springfieldpoultry.co.uk/

nhd - http://www.naturallyhealthydogs.co.uk/default.html - pick up only

http://www.dogsdiner.webs.com/

martins meats - http://www.martinsmeats.com/Locally-produced-pet-food.php

Perfect pet food - http://www.barfpetfoods.co.uk/

Landywoods - Landywood Pet Foods : Price List - most of the country covered for delivery but not in scotland

raw2paw - http://www.raw2paw.co.uk/ MVM supplier

The dogs dinner - The Dogs Dinner - T.P.M.S. Pet Food Specialists - delivery within the south of england

Durham animal feeds - http://www.daf-petfood.co.uk/ country wide delivery

prize choice - Natural Frozen Pet Foods - Prize Choice - The Natural Food for Healthy Animals - nationwide delivery excluding a few areas

berrie wood - Dog Food, Pet Food and Pet Accessories - Berriewood Pet Supplies - select postcodes see Ordering Information - Berriewood Pet Supplies

Dog food company - Suppliers of Dog Food | Supplying Pet Food in Central and Southern England - southern and central england delivery (except london)

Knight pet supplies - Raw Pet Food in Birmingham : Knight Pet Supplies Ltd - delivery in birmingham areas only

albion - Albion Meat Products | Quality Pet Food - southern, central england delivery

natural instinct - Natural Instinct - Home - mainland uk shipping

darling's - Real, Raw, Organic Dog Food Supplier - Questions - mainland shipping

Linc's pets - supplied by DAF - Lincs pets - various areas, nottingham, linconshire, derby, humber etc

Nurturing by nature - Bones & Treats

Basils dog food - http://basilsdogfood.co.uk/

Wolf tucker - http://www.wolftucker.co.uk/adult/ -  Local deliveries to Chichester area and also country wide
Available from - Mark Elliott and Associates vets
Madam Green Buisiness Park,
Oving, Chichester,
West Sussex, PO20 2DD.
01243 779111 www.markelliott.co.uk

team ilbrey k9 partners - Lancing, West Sussex, they deliver along the south coast and to Portsmouth ferry for customers on the Isle of Wight. No delivery charges

Clearaday pets - http://www.cleardayrawfeeds.co.uk/ - mvm supplier

mobile pet foods - http://www.mobilepetfoods.co.uk/section.php/8/1

bulmer pet food - http://www.bulmerdogfood.co.uk/

Supplier in Ireland

slaney pet foods - http://www.slaneypetfoods.ie/#

dogs first - http://dogsfirst.ie/


Suppliers in Germany:

BARF Frischfleisch zur artgerechten Rohfütterung - haustierkost.de

Der BARF Shop | Home

https://www.das-tierhotel.de/

Fleisch am Stück | BARF Karnivor Shop

www.mcwuff.de

Fleischdatenbank [BARF]

Kürzlich aktualisierte Einträge:BARF Frischfleisch Händler

[ella]

A great yet simple list of vitamins and what foods contain them

http://www.kaossiberians.com/old%20kaos%20pages/health/Nutrients.pdf

[ella]

Just some of the health benefits to a raw diet:

- improved oral and teeth health, and better breath
- improved digestion
- improved stimulation
- better skin and coat
- healthy immune system
- tend to leaner body mass
- much improved stool volume and odor
- you are able to custom tailor the diet to your dogs need

and many many more

[Eleanor]

You've been a busy bee!

Looks great!

[Lynne]

Can I add some suppliers x for the north London area x

[ella]

of course

[Serendipity]

Very Informative Ella  
I feed raw but not quite the same as you


Linda

[ella]

Thanks I don't think many feed raw like me so I try to do a general raw feeding thread so people can go from there!

[Lynne]

Billy is a nightmare he will not eat some things I have got him turkey wings and chicken feet, pigs trotters and he is just not interested , I am going to donate them to a rescue hopefully they will have them

He is so fussy x

[Serendipity]

Thanks I don't think many feed raw like me :lol:so I try to do a general raw feeding thread so people can go from there!

I would love too
But finding suppliers locally would be difficult  

[Lynne]

It's not difficult at all where abouts are you x

[ella]

Thanks I don't think many feed raw like me :lol:so I try to do a general raw feeding thread so people can go from there!

I would love too
But finding suppliers locally would be difficult  

i use suppliers, butchers, hunters and road kill!

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