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Post by Shisa on Tue Jan 27, 2015 7:50 am

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She had another episode (I can't call it a seizure as it isn't really a seizure) Saturday night.
The symptoms are strange as she looks like the world is spinning with her. She lies down flat and grips with her claws, she hides her head when I hold her.
We haven't started any treatment. When she has another 'episode' I'll take her in immediately so we can do blood tests to completely rule out blood sugar, kidney or liver issues first. The tests need to be done as close to the 'episode' as possible.
Because she's healthy the blood tests are really just formality. The vet said if there was any issues we would have had other symptoms and because of her age and breed he's fairly confident we're seeing the start of epilepsy and he 'episodes' are Petit Mal seizures.
crying crying crying crying crying crying crying crying crying crying crying crying crying crying crying crying crying crying crying crying crying crying crying crying crying crying crying crying crying crying
If the blood tests come back clear and she has another 2 episodes in a month we have to start treatment with Phenobarbital and all I'm hearing is liver damage and disease! Great drug but ... great risk.

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Re: So Missy might have Epilepsy

Post by Caryll on Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:50 pm

Never mind, I just saw your video on the other forum - nothing like Dempsey's 'fits'.

It's a very odd reaction, isn't it?

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Re: So Missy might have Epilepsy

Post by tracyp on Wed Apr 08, 2015 3:38 pm

Mums dog has epilepsy.  1/2 pill twice a day have stopped the seizures.
Phenobarbital is exactly what Molly is on.
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Re: So Missy might have Epilepsy

Post by Shisa on Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:23 pm

So ... she had a crap load of tests heart, liver, kidneys, glucose, everything is fine and in range. She's very fit and healthy. I can take her for a very costly and 4 hour drive away brain scan but we can assume it's epilepsy.
I'm sad but relieved to finally really know what's wrong with her and so that we can move forward.
Both vets studied the video I took and both agree that it looks like a seizure, albeit a mild one. We're not going to start medicating till she's having true full blown seizures.
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Re: So Missy might have Epilepsy

Post by tracyp on Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:28 pm

Mums vet found her seratonin levels were way too low. Molly had about 4? Siezures in 6 mths. She has not had another since starting on medication.

I do hope missy is ok. hug
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Re: So Missy might have Epilepsy

Post by Eleanor on Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:49 pm

hug At least you have a better idea of what it is now. Have the vets discussed potential future treatments and management with you?
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Re: So Missy might have Epilepsy

Post by LyndaW on Wed Apr 08, 2015 7:52 pm

So sorry to hear Missy had another "episode" and that's it's probably epilepsy.

The good thing is that she is fine the majority of the time, and is fine after an episode. This is how the few epileptic humans that I know are. I only know of one epileptic dog, a large collie-type, and he is happy although a little aloof and quiet - maybe due to his medication or because that is his nature anyway.

Good luck, Theresa and Missy, do let us know how things progress hug hug
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Re: So Missy might have Epilepsy

Post by Shisa on Fri Apr 10, 2015 2:46 pm

Eleanor wrote:hug At least you have a better idea of what it is now. Have the vets discussed potential future treatments and management with you?

Yes they did.
I'm currently trying to find a vet as close as possible that can MRI and/or CT scan and what it'll cost. If Missy has a brain tumour I'd like to know.
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Re: So Missy might have Epilepsy

Post by Shisa on Fri Apr 10, 2015 2:48 pm

LyndaW wrote:So sorry to hear Missy had another "episode" and that's it's probably epilepsy.

The good thing is that she is fine the majority of the time, and is fine after an episode.  This is how the few epileptic humans that I know are.  I only know of one epileptic dog, a large collie-type, and he is happy although a little aloof and quiet - maybe due to his medication or because that is his nature anyway.

Good luck, Theresa and Missy, do let us know how things progress hug  hug

Thank you.
Yes the meds 'zonks' them out, as my vet described. This is probably the thing that upsets me most, she'll not be herself anymore if she has to be medicated crying
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Re: So Missy might have Epilepsy

Post by Caryll on Fri Apr 10, 2015 11:18 pm

What they did with a friend's dog is they started her on a medium dose (& yes, it did make her a bit spaced out) but gradually reduced the dose to a point where it hardly affected her 'sharpness'.

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Re: So Missy might have Epilepsy

Post by Shisa on Mon Apr 13, 2015 12:26 pm

I'm still dreading her having to go on meds. Phenobarbital affects the liver and they need frequent blood tests to make sure it stays healthy and there's no tumours.
Medicine can be scary.
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Re: So Missy might have Epilepsy

Post by Caryll on Mon Apr 13, 2015 12:27 pm

Yes, they can. Sometimes you have to weigh up the pros & cons of giving/not giving the meds & try to make the right decision! sad

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Re: So Missy might have Epilepsy

Post by tracyp on Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:21 am

Shisa wrote:I'm still dreading her having to go on meds. Phenobarbital affects the liver and they need frequent blood tests to make sure it stays healthy and there's no tumours.
Medicine can be scary.

Molly is on 1/2 tab a day & she is 4xs missy's size. She is doing 6mthly blood tests which will go to an annual one is all continues to go well.

Molly was a drunk skunk for 2 days after starting meds but has been brilliant since taking meds. Not one episode / seizure since.
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Re: So Missy might have Epilepsy

Post by Shisa on Tue Apr 14, 2015 8:04 am

There's definitely great benefits to the meds. We just have a waiting game now.
TBH it does feel like a sword hanging above my head. Waiting for something to happen. Not knowing when it'll happen. Hoping nothing happens ...
I do think she has a tell though. I'm waiting to see if what I think was the tell is in fact not coincidence. For a few night before the seizure she would suddenly act scared, as if she was hearing something strange, and would try and crawl under me in bed or want to be held and follow me till I picked her up. Very weird as she's pretty fearless.
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Re: So Missy might have Epilepsy

Post by Caryll on Tue Apr 14, 2015 5:43 pm

Something to remember for the future.

Theresa, you'll cope. You have to, and so you will.

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Re: So Missy might have Epilepsy

Post by Lorraine on Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:55 pm

My friend was telling me that her brother's two Labradors have been having fits, but rather than go down the medication route, they have put magnetic collars on them, and neither has had a fit since. I don't know if its just coincidence, or whether there's any thing in it, but I thought I'd pass it on.
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Re: So Missy might have Epilepsy

Post by Caryll on Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:06 am

Worth a try - it at least can't do any harm, can it?

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Re: So Missy might have Epilepsy

Post by Shisa on Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:52 pm

Thanks Lorraine. I'll look into that immediately.
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