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Post by Eleanor Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:23 pm

I've managed to wrench my rib muscles (intercostal muscles - aren't I clever? laughing) when I was doing my sit ups and crunches. I think I twisted by mistake while I was doing them and now I can hardly move/breath without it hurting! I feel like a right pillock now! tongue

I tried Voltarol gel and it seemed to help a little bit, but not completely. Anybody got any ideas?
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Post by Caryll Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:28 pm

Poor you! The voltarol gel should have helped a bit more, but I don't have any more sugestions. sad 
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Post by LyndaW Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:33 pm

OMG that is so painful - I did a similar thing a couple of years ago when I was making my mum's bed.

I found Voltarol gel the most effective too. But I recommended a very good spray to Caryll yesterday which I use on my knee. It won't cure obviously, only time and rest will do that, but I've found it effective. Just a sec and I'll copy what I posted to her:-

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Post by LyndaW Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:34 pm

The spray is (reading from the bottle) called Nopanol Forte Spray (medosan Reg. swiss formula). Swiss Beauty AG, CH-Abtwil. Made in Switzerland. Distribution for EU: Medosan Handels GmbH, DE-67059 Ludwigshafen.

If you can’t find it on web let me know and I’ll ask my mum where she got it from (could have been Kleeneze but am not sure).

It’s a natural pump spray so has to be held upright when spraying the knee, which isn’t easy. The fumes are choking so do spray it another room from where you sleep! I only use it when the pain (burning, inflammation pain) is bad and wakes me up, but I have found it soothing. It’s not curative, just palliative.
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Post by Eleanor Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:47 pm

Caryll wrote:Poor you! The voltarol gel should have helped a bit more, but I don't have any more sugestions. sad 

It definitely helped a lot, but for some reason certain types of painkillers either disagree with me completely (Ibuprofen) or sort of half work. I might not have used enough or rubbed it in enough though - not sure sad

LyndaW wrote:OMG that is so painful - I did a similar thing a couple of years ago when I was making my mum's bed.

I found Voltarol gel the most effective too.  But I recommended a very good spray to Caryll yesterday which I use on my knee.  It won't cure obviously, only time and rest will do that, but I've found it effective.  Just a sec and I'll copy what I posted to her:-


Ouch! shocked You don't realise just how easy it can be to pull a muscle!

Thank you!

LyndaW wrote:The spray is (reading from the bottle) called Nopanol Forte Spray (medosan Reg. swiss formula).  Swiss Beauty AG, CH-Abtwil.  Made in Switzerland.  Distribution for EU: Medosan Handels GmbH, DE-67059 Ludwigshafen.

If you can’t find it on web let me know and I’ll ask my mum where she got it from (could have been Kleeneze but am not sure).

It’s a natural pump spray so has to be held upright when spraying the knee, which isn’t easy.  The fumes are choking so do spray it another room from where you sleep!  I only use it when the pain (burning, inflammation pain) is bad and wakes me up, but I have found it soothing.  It’s not curative, just palliative.

Thanks so much! I'll look that up right now happy
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Post by Caryll Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:54 pm

I had a quick look last night & couldn't find it (well, not in the UK anyway) and I've just checked again. It seems there are a couple of sites abroad, but they're not in english. sad 
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Post by Eleanor Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:57 pm

Same here! No luck sad
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Post by LyndaW Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:10 pm

Bother. sorry.

So I've just phoned my mum - she is one of those people who have masses and masses of mail-order catalogues delivered to her.

Apparently this stuff is listed as Pain Relief Spray and she got it from a company called Elderberry. I asked for the email address and it is www.elderberrydirect.co.uk

Forgot to ask her if there are any capital letters so you may have to juggle a bit.



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Post by Caryll Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:18 pm

Thank you! I've just ordered some! happy 

If it doesn't work I'll totally blame you and your mum! laughing 
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Post by Eleanor Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:19 pm

Thanks hug
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Post by LyndaW Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:28 pm

Gosh that was quick Caryll!

I hope it works for both of you - I shall certainly get some more.
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Post by Eleanor Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:39 pm

I hope so too! happy For tonight, I'll probably take Solpadeine Max. I hate it because it makes me feel like my head's been packed with cotton wool, but it kills pain! tongue
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Post by LyndaW Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:14 pm

I don't like taking oral pain killers either, I much prefer a topical application and even then only when necessary. But needs must where the devil drives. I hope you get a pain-free night's sleep  hug 
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Post by Eleanor Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:35 pm

Thanks! Tbh, I hate taking all painkillers! laughing The only ones I can really take are Paracetamol and Solpadeine, as I'm allergic to Ibuprofen. The Paracetamol doesn't always work and the Solpadeine pretty much knocks me out, so I'd sooner go without most times. tongue
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Post by LyndaW Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:11 pm

Without trotting upstairs to check my medicine cupboard, I thought Voltarol contained Ibuprofen? You'll know better than me as luckily I'm not allergic to anything as far as I know, so don't look! I have used Ibuprofen gel topically and found it fairly effective, but Voltarol somewhat more effective.

Paracetamol I would agree is pretty mild and I don't use it. Once, before my mum fortunately found the marvellous spray aforementioned, in desperation I took 2 x 500g Co-Codomal tablets, followed half an hour later by another tablet. Doink! But I did get back to sleep!

I do hope you get a good night's sleep and that the rib sprain improves rapidly  hug 

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Post by Eleanor Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:16 pm

I have no idea tongue If it does, then apparently I'm not allergic to topical Ibuprofen! All I know is, when I've taken Ibuprofen pills before, I've gotten stomach cramps.

Youch! Co-Codomal is a knock-out pill! laughing I'm surprised you didn't sleep for a week!

Thanks hug The Solpadeine's helped a lot!
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Post by LyndaW Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:30 pm

How are you today Eleanor? I hope you got a good night's sleep.

Oh, and btw I was wrong - Voltarol is diclofenac not ibuprofen.
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Post by Eleanor Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:32 pm

A lot better today, thanks! hug Still a bit sore, but I've taken a couple of days off from crunches and sit ups. tongue

Ah, that'd explain it! I meant to check, but forgot laughing
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Post by LyndaW Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:35 pm

Glad you are feeling better. Yes, leave crunches and sit-ups alone!
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Post by Caryll Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:36 pm

LyndaW wrote: Once, before my mum fortunately found the marvellous spray aforementioned, in desperation I took 2 x 500g Co-Codomal tablets, followed half an hour later by another tablet.  Doink!  But I did get back to sleep!  

How many? shocked 

I'm amazed that you woke up next morning. laughing  When I had my foot operation a couple of years or so ago I was given Co-codamol & was supposed to take 2 x tablets, three times a day for the first 2 days, then one tablet, three times a day for 12 days. I actually took 2 x tablets, three times a day for the first day (my oh insisted), then I cut it back to one, three times a day for 2 days. Then it was just one if the foot started to get a bit sore! I hate that feeling of having cotton wool in my head instead of brains! laughing 
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Post by Eleanor Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:44 pm

I'll hopefully start them up again next week tongue Will give myself a chance to rest properly first though!

Naughty mum! Disobeying the doctors! laughing
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Post by Caryll Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:45 pm

You know what I'm like with doctors! blush 
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Post by Eleanor Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:46 pm

You're worse than me! laughing
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Post by Caryll Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:51 pm

laughing 
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Post by LyndaW Thu Feb 13, 2014 10:00 pm

It was a one-off - I don't normally take pain-killers at all.

It was a bit silly I agree. Don't try this at home, folks wink
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